Andrew Wilson

I'm 100,000% with you.

If I were in charge, if I was king of the UK tomorrow, monarch tomorrow, I would close the gates of immigration immediately and give Tommy Robinson a badge and be like, good job, man.

You did the best you could with what you had.

But the thing is, is like, I guess what I'm getting at

Before we get into too many reductios, I'm just trying to point this out.

That what you're arguing, you see how what we just did is we took a fact and we're like vibing over it?

But now I've introduced some philosophy to it.

And so now I'm asking about the grounding.

What is the grounding?

Look, you can argue it, okay?

What I'm saying to you is that if everything that you're arguing is just coming from a me perspective, all morality is just dependent on stance, then even if these people are doing something you consider dumb, it's not immoral.

How could it be immoral or how could it be wrong for them to do that?

How?

And this is a question when you reduce to the ethical purview, I realized long time ago, Christians can basically do whatever the fuck we want to secular atheist progressives.

Because- What happens to treating others as you would like to be treated?

Well, so you're gonna bank on the benevolence of my view?

No, but I should because you're a Christian.

Right, so if you're going to bank on the benevolence of my view, are you seeding that my view is the right one?

So, but...

But if you have a foundation of just stance dependence for all of your moral claims, right, then even if I violated this and was a complete hypocrite and actually just verbally just paid it lip service for the purpose of controlling your mind, you can't tell me why that's wrong.