André Duqum

Well said.

I think this goes also nicely with your work within Distractible because that level of information I think is really important, both from the technology standpoint, but more so the internal emotional triggers that are more at the root cause.

when you go on that process, you know when to quit, you're clarifying what it is that you truly want, then there's this knowing and doing gap, right?

You like know kind of what you should do, but you fail to execute, you fail to have the consistency and what some people feel is like the discipline and willpower, but you have a great frame on how to actually close that gap.

So could you set the stage for a bit of that work?

Because I think it tail ends this conversation quite nicely.

What is it then, those emotional triggers, what is the origin in your perspective of that discomfort?

I'm not a slave to these sensations.

So each of us individually has her own go-to coping mechanism.

Everybody knows the person that pulls the phone out at the party because there's anxiety, right?

The substances, the pornography, the videos...

Not necessarily moral failings at all, but you're speaking to this distraction as being sort of rooted in a dysregulation of your nervous system.

There's a discomfort.

There's something that you're avoiding.

So is it then a skill issue to be able to learn how to be with discomfort?

to be able to go back in the direction of traction and not distraction, right?

If we want to reclaim and live the life we want that we plan and intend to live, um, then how does one cultivate that traction?

I'm curious your thoughts on – I personally love the intersection of neuroscience and what the contemplative wisdom traditions have been saying for a while.

Where do they converge?

What are we verifying with science and backing up from what the yogis would say?