Andy Greenberg

She also said that any courier is super far down the hierarchy of a scam operation and it would not be a good idea.

Also, she pointed out that that would call attention to the fact that there was a leak in the compound and could put Red Bull's life at risk.

But then I asked her, you know, what do you think about putting him in touch with an FBI agent, somebody to be his handler?

Can you recommend somebody?

And to my surprise, she suggested that I not do that either.

She thought that the story that I could produce with Red Bull as a source would be more important than anything he could give law enforcement.

The best case scenario, in years, what he provided might lead to

The arrest of somebody low down in the org chart of a scam compound or possibly just charges in absentia for somebody who could not possibly be arrested or extradited from Laos, from the Golden Triangle.

As she put it, the cavalry is not coming.

Nobody from Interpol or the FBI is going to march into this scam compound in the Golden Triangle and start arresting people.

Yeah, Red Bull was just remarkably risk tolerance, like had so many dangerous ideas about what he wanted to do.

He wanted to wear a hidden camera or hidden microphone, a button camera or some sort of watch with a recording device in it.

He wanted to install spyware on his boss's computer.

He wanted to set up a screen recording software on his work PC so that I could see what he was doing all day long.

And, you know, I consulted with you about all these things and then many, you know, other experts.

And everybody told me, you know, one by one, like, these are not good ideas.

Like, this will get Red Bull killed.

And I took that very seriously.

And we didn't do any of that.

I talked him out of all of those ideas.