Andy Levine

And unlike Ultimatum and Temptation Island, which are kind of second and third favorites, I think you can't con the system completely.

with Love is Blind because you can go in with a fake-ish relationship or maybe a relationship that was real but now is done.

Or you're, yeah, exactly, which is a win-win.

But with Love is Blind, I mean, sure, you can go on for the wrong reasons, but in the end, you're not in a relationship to start.

So you can't really fake that part.

So it seems a little more real.

it's fascinating to me yeah oh that's true yeah like when the one we did last time the midwestern one they did ohio they did the whole state they're like they couldn't just get akron they're like columbus cleveland now we got to do the whole state that's funny

Now a lot of the couples, it's part and parcel.

I don't think they can parse out what's love and what's clout.

I think it becomes one monster.

Yes.

Together.

Together as a Lovefest episode.

And yeah, I'm going to go with Clout on this one.

What about them?

One-sided.

Yeah, no, Caitlyn was in.

What about it made you feel that way?

I mean, he said there was like a... He felt distant and kind of distracted during the interview, like he had somewhere better to be.

Not that our podcast is so amazing that you don't have somewhere better to be.