Andy McGrillin

It's my favorite, yeah.

Or is it the nuts and bolts of the craft, or is it the reverse engineering program?

Where are you really dedicated to digging?

Good question.

I think it's changed from when I started, it would have been nuts and bolts and how the craft kind of operate.

But I think for me, more and more I'm interested in the idea these things are here already.

and the connotations of what that would mean.

Have they been here a long time?

Is it a newer phenomenon?

How many of these things are here?

The idea of underwater bases, these craft potentially being manufactured under the water.

I know there's been some chat recently, again, the Tic Tacs are Lockheed Martin, are human technology.

I would still dispute that.

for many reasons we'll probably get to stuff like that later but yeah just the whole idea that these things are not necessarily coming from that far away that really piques my interest so yeah I'd say that especially over the last year or two

How has this space evolved since you started looking into it?

Like you, you describe in your book, being a young kid, having a sighting, and then, you know, being the kid who is fascinated by the strange and mysterious.

I was that kid.

You know, I think, I think we were all that kid to some degree or another.

And I had one idea of what I thought the phenomenon was when I was like 14, but that's obviously a lot.

It's changed a lot.