Andy McGrillin
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3,021 appearances
2 recordings
1 series
first heard May 2026
last heard 8 Aug
Andy McGrillin’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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And it's kind of evidenced by the fact that we got Tranche 5 today.
Clearly, legacy programs are not playing ball still.
Like, they have a secret.
They still want to keep that secret for as long as possible.
So that's going to continue.
The tranches are going to continue to be disappointing until many of us lose interest.
um so the leroy jenkins in my opinion is not government related it's not legacy program related it's a whistleblower is leroy jenkins right now that's the option for the whistleblower um is david crush the leroy jenkins no maybe but that you know whoever it is has to come with the defining evidence that we need more can i tell you why not
Yeah, why not?
Because I think he's been interacting with people like Mellon or Lou for a long time.
And even if he's earnest and he has the best intentions, he's already tangled up with them.
And he can't really get out of the...
it's a symbiotic kind of relationship now by this point um and and i think that's that's a problem because he's also constrained like they are um and to me we need another moment like snowden but with this stuff um and i know that the the repercussions of that let's just look at what happened with snowden like he essentially jeopardized a lot of agents in uh
who are operating abroad for his country, which that's what pissed people off, right?
But the reaction from the people to that event, I think it could have been bigger, but I don't know if this, there's only one person that I can think of that hasn't gone through DOPSR and is not constrained like the majority are.
so in the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king okay so if we have got these folks that we know right now Grush Elizondo Melon take your pick right whoever you want to pick your champion pick your character your avatar maybe they can only take us so far and I would love to I'll ask Pavel and if you guys want to give me an answer if we say that at the end of the day the ultimate
Sorry for the noise.
The ultimate gatekeeper would have a knowledge of 10 and they know the most of anyone.
Realistically, where do you think Grush sits on the scale of 10 being I know everything about what's going on to one being your average member of the public who doesn't really care?
I'd say at most, yeah.
But isn't that better than... I mean, any...
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