Andy McGrillin

You're in Stephen Greer's camp and Lou Elizondo's camp.

Those two guys sitting across from each other, it's not going to happen, unfortunately, on any of our shows, more than likely.

Maybe a Jesse Michaels could sit them both down.

But then, can you imagine a Stephen Greer and a David Grush, even, let's say, across a table, having a conversation?

Like, Dan's shaking his head.

Clint, you...

It'd be so hard to watch.

David doesn't need that.

That's the difference.

David fucking knows.

I think that's it.

Whatever he's doing, he's got the Stephen Greer show, and that's a constant thing that's always on.

Because I agree, like you said, every 15 minutes there's a new documentary, and a lot of it's rehashing the same thing he's been saying for 30 years.

Not that there's anything wrong with that, but in terms of being the guy who is constantly promising, like, tomorrow I'm going to break this thing wide open, and then that day never comes.

I feel like a lot of people have been let down.

And I could see how this time around, as you pointed out, this is a great opportunity to dump a bunch of cold water, blow up the balloon of expectations, and then just...

release a bunch of nonsense that people are completely turned off by.

And then that, that puts out the discussion for a little while, but I don't know.

There's another part of me that thinks it's moved beyond that point.

Now, like there's after grush, it's kind of, we just have so much more detail.