Andy McGrillin

All the stuff that we use now, 50, 60, 75, 80 years ago, was this cutting-edge technology.

And I wonder, how long will it be until the cutting-edge stuff that Lazar or whoever you choose was working on...

inevitably just kind of by the power and forces of the market is just like there's a board of directors sitting around going we're sitting on this shit

Like, yeah, we're making a few craft out of it, but we could be making fucking everything out of this stuff.

The problem is that, allegedly, if this technology is real, the technology is kind of anti-capitalist in a way, because it's so cheap and abundant and effectively limitless that...

BP just posted the fact that they've just doubled their profits since the beginning of the Iran war.

They're not going to give that up for free energy because what's the point?

What they need to happen is that living standards need to fall so low that people literally do not want to live in that condition anymore.

That's the time that people literally say, no, that's enough.

And it could be at that point where nobody can afford energy anymore that somebody comes up with the grand answer and we're willing to give up some freedoms to have some access to it, let's say.

The alternative is much worse.

i give two points then because one on that and another one on the mass sighting thing right one mass sighting what if the mass sighting doesn't propel us forward what if we get a phoenix lights esque event now with an undeniable alien craft at some height and distance over a major city somewhere in the world and it comes and goes no contact just literally it passes through but people see it as undeniable and from there

Are the governments going to come out and go, yeah, we've got alien tech?

No, they'll just go, wow, that was incredible, and we're going to investigate.

There's nothing to say they're going to say, oh, we've seen this craft.

Yeah, the public now knows worldwide we're potentially not alone, but what if it just comes and goes?

That's an option.

And secondly, see the free energy thing.

I never understand where people get this concept of,

they've got the the ability to create free energy why everyone thinks they're going to get it and it will be free remember that episode of the simpsons right where homer um has like he has like a daydream and he invents a cube and it's the greatest invention of all time but you can't quite see it and stuff right do people have this idea that we find out there's aliens tomorrow and then they go okay where's the free energy and elon musk goes actually we've got 12 billion of these little free energy cubes we've made