Andy McGrillin

And, and, you know, just before we move on to the last.

Oh yeah.

That last, uh, I definitely want to talk about, um, the, the, the briefing that may have taken place recently as well.

So we should definitely, definitely save some time for that.

But yeah.

Um, yeah, I'll, uh, I'll share this right now.

Give me a second.

Sorry.

I'm getting over a bit of a cold.

Uh,

Yeah, there it is.

Sorry, I had a strange pop-up there.

uh happy to um understand their place in the universe so to speak like full stop what an amazing statement the universe is teeming with life and readily able to be explored that's huge

Still just want to know what this tough pill to swallow is.

I really, really want to know.

I've asked people that are in positions to know what David Grush thinks is the tough pill to swallow, and I'm not getting anything.

I'm not getting anything, but I really want to know.

I think that will be the tough pill to swallow because on one side you got the extremely religious people that already think that this is something spiritual or religious and I don't think that's going to be it.

and i think that that's going to be tough for everybody like uh because it's not going to fit your own world view whenever it comes out if it does you think it's a religious thing like ultimately this side thing is going to interfere with people's ideas i think people people confuse religion with spirituality or consciousness

I could see the uncomfortable truth being like, you can't have contact with an advanced civilization like this and keep the world that you know.