Andy McGrillin

just by being the guy in the suit that you know can speak eloquently and with authority about this topic in a way that throws water on it he's he provides an alternative narrative because the other narrative is one that's really got a lot of appeal it's you know david grush on the other hand he talks about it you can feel his sincerity coming through the camera you can tell this guy is committed to the truth he talks about that the hardships that he's had to go through and why this has been such a struggle

And, you know, he talks about the hard work that goes on behind the scenes to get the information out.

And I know we've got a clip of David I want to go to in just a second.

But, you know, there are certain people you can see their sincerity is apparent.

I think Tim Galladet strikes me as one of those people who has a position and a stature and a resume, a CV that puts him in a place where there's no upside for him.

to be the UFO guy.

Like, none.

He could make a fortune being a consultant and do all kinds of other things without doing this.

So the fact that he's doing it, I think people who are willing to take that hit, you know, I have a lot of respect for that.

Is it the RL Dylan Borland?

Yes.

I use a screenshot of his ex account in my episode later tonight.

Don't tell your wife.

His Twitter account.

I've screenshotted a tweet that he made and put it in my episode that comes out at 9pm tonight.

Nice.

So thanks for that.

So yeah, you wanted to watch this David Grush clip, right?

We've kind of moved past the administration kind of thing, but him, the tough pill to swallow stuff's quite interesting.

yeah, I think he has a really great point that he makes at the end that I thought was interesting.