Andy McGrillin

It's really good.

I'm relatively proud of it, so yeah.

I want to talk to you about a couple of the cases.

The first one I wanted to ask you about is the one that you kind of opened the book in your introduction with when you were a kid.

You said you were, what, like 11?

And you were walking and saw this thing that... Can you talk about that experience?

What did you see?

Yeah, so I was about 10 and 11 years old in the mid-90s.

So I've just turned 40, which is old age in Scotland.

We don't usually make it that long.

And in the mid 90s, no camera phones, nothing like that.

I used to go to the BB, which is the Boys Brigade, kind of the scouts type organisation.

And it was held in a church.

I wasn't and I'm not religious in any way, shape or form.

I always feel I have to add that in there.

And it was a kind of cold winter's night in Scotland, really busy area.

A lot of the times you hear about UFOs, they're out in the desert, they're in the middle of a field somewhere, a big park.

This was like all houses as far as the eye can see, shops, a busy main road, community centre.

And we walked out the church and there's like a long road, a couple of miles long.

And I remember looking up to the right hand side to cross and I was with my mum, my sister, her friend, my friend and his mum.