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Andy Penn

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Redefiners
Transformation in Turbulent Times with Former Telstra CEO Andy Penn

Typically, an organization is functionally orientated.

Redefiners
Transformation in Turbulent Times with Former Telstra CEO Andy Penn

However, most of the things as an organization you're trying to deliver are actually horizontal.

Redefiners
Transformation in Turbulent Times with Former Telstra CEO Andy Penn

You're trying to deliver new solutions to customers or deliver new systems.

Redefiners
Transformation in Turbulent Times with Former Telstra CEO Andy Penn

And so they're cross-functional in nature.

Redefiners
Transformation in Turbulent Times with Former Telstra CEO Andy Penn

And so typically what tends to happen in the planning sense is you identify your strategy, you plan the things you want to implement, which are cross-functional.

Redefiners
Transformation in Turbulent Times with Former Telstra CEO Andy Penn

And then you hope that the functional teams are actually going to apply their resources to their bit of implementing.

Redefiners
Transformation in Turbulent Times with Former Telstra CEO Andy Penn

What actually you do in Agile is the Agile system effectively controls that process.

Redefiners
Transformation in Turbulent Times with Former Telstra CEO Andy Penn

It controls the allocation of resources.

Redefiners
Transformation in Turbulent Times with Former Telstra CEO Andy Penn

So when you make a decision at a cross-functional level, the actual system ensures that the resources are allocated to it and the functional teams

Redefiners
Transformation in Turbulent Times with Former Telstra CEO Andy Penn

leads if you like can't resist that and so the mechanism actually makes that happen and we implemented agile because philosophically we thought it was the right thing to my point is just to understand what's going on if you can better align the allocation of resources people money and emotion to the cross-functional initiatives the more you can do to mechanistically make that happen the easier you will find the transformation

Redefiners
Transformation in Turbulent Times with Former Telstra CEO Andy Penn

On the culture point, I'm a firm believer that culture is a function of the things that you do and say every single day.

Redefiners
Transformation in Turbulent Times with Former Telstra CEO Andy Penn

It's not some abstract sort of concept.

Redefiners
Transformation in Turbulent Times with Former Telstra CEO Andy Penn

And I think often organizations and teams, they work on the business of business, and then they've got this sort of second stream of work over there, which is called culture, and we'll implement a bunch of things on culture.

Redefiners
Transformation in Turbulent Times with Former Telstra CEO Andy Penn

but actually culture is a manifestation of how you do business.

Redefiners
Transformation in Turbulent Times with Former Telstra CEO Andy Penn

So for example, if you say that diversity is important,

Redefiners
Transformation in Turbulent Times with Former Telstra CEO Andy Penn

But then every single day, the decisions that you make on a project or in how you organize yourself are not supportive of diversity.

Redefiners
Transformation in Turbulent Times with Former Telstra CEO Andy Penn

You're just sending a different message.

Redefiners
Transformation in Turbulent Times with Former Telstra CEO Andy Penn

And so for me, I was more focused on the way in which we did things, which would then lead to the manifestation of our culture than I was about defining the culture that we want.

Redefiners
Transformation in Turbulent Times with Former Telstra CEO Andy Penn

And then the other thing that we were touching on was senior leadership.

Redefiners
Transformation in Turbulent Times with Former Telstra CEO Andy Penn

Working with the senior team is obviously something that's