Andy Stumpf

I understand now.

And it re-centers and like, okay, doesn't make it any easier to deal with, but I understand.

Before they got divorced?

Definitely.

How old were you when you realized your parents were just people doing the best they could?

Yesterday.

No, I'm just kidding.

No, I mean- No, I- For a long time in life as kids, though, your parents are-

What they say, gospel.

And they must have the answers to everything because they're older than any human beings ever been.

And then you realize they are out there making shit up on the fly, doing the best they can with the data set that they have in front of them.

Not doing great most of the time.

It's not because they're not trying to do great.

They're just fucking people.

Yeah, I didn't... To me, it just seemed natural.

I didn't even give it a second thought.

Yeah.

But I'm telling you, if you've ever tasted that 9-volt the way I did, you might actually be like, so what is this progression?

It was the opposite of walking around adrenalized.

People oftentimes have asked me, you know, what does it feel like to be an adrenaline junkie?