Andy

It's time to have a conversation.

It's time to speak up.

And you never know.

And I would hope something like that really sparks and ignites an interest and allows researchers like both of yourselves to carry on doing the work you're doing.

So very much appreciated your time today, gentlemen.

And Shane, have you got anything you want to mention?

Anything you want to promote?

How can people find you in your work and what have you got coming up?

Wonderful and Grant if people hang on I'm going to play some clips from your The Westall Witnesses documentary that is available on YouTube I would always encourage folks to go and do that I'm not playing the whole thing there will just be a couple of little segments from folks we have mentioned today from folks that Shane spoke about in our previous interview and you'll just hear some snippets from those witnesses

taken a couple of years ago by Grant and just hear what they went through, what they go through now and how they feel and how things have changed or even haven't changed in terms of this topic.

So you'll hear a couple of those little segments if you hang on past the gents leaving here.

But Grant, what about yourself?

How can people find you and your work?

Wonderful.

Gents, thank you both for your time.

Really appreciate it.

And again, good luck with the presentation and the appearance, Grant.

Shane, when that book comes out, it'd be great to have you on.

We'll let folks know when it's available.

And if you hang on, folks, you won't hear the end of the show.