Angela Chan

Hello, Sean.

Hello, Sam.

Hey.

Well, Sean, the cinema was still the place to go for the latest Hollywood blockbuster.

But cinemas were starting to get pricey.

We'd seen Cineworld arrive.

They were supersizing your popcorn.

And the home market was still DVDs or even video rental.

Love Film was sending you DVDs in the post.

Netflix had come on the scene.

But they weren't streaming until four years after that.

So, you know, this was a particular moment in time that it's hard for us to get in touch with.

You know, we didn't have smartphones yet.

And online purchasing wasn't normal.

So what Stelios was doing was really quite radical.

We were making a series called Trouble at the Top.

And of course, when you're making an observational documentary, you spend a lot of time following people around looking for trouble.

But Stelios loved trouble.

So, you know, it became a dance with him where he was trying to think up good stunts for us to film.

And we were sort of trying to resist as filmmakers, but he's irresistible and irrepressible.