Anita Arnand

This is a man called Shlomo Argov, who is actually shot in the head.

I mean, it's a serious attempt on his life.

Oh, God.

Right, right, right.

I mean, it is, I mean, just utter failures of diplomacy with fingers and ears and saying, la, la, la, la, la.

I can't hear it.

So, I mean, the siege by land, by air, seen through a window, although no diplomats in the State Department want to believe it, this is a siege that's going to last for 70 days.

Now, during this siege, Kim, I mean, you know, you were saying that there was some sympathy for the Palestinians, but deep irritation for the Palestinian militant movement that many felt was dragging Lebanon into a trajectory that they had not chosen for themselves.

Okay.

But there are also Palestinian civilians who have, you know, no choice.

They've been shuttled around, you know, they've just landed here.

We're talking again of innocent civilians.

men, women and children who are in camps.

Now, these camps, can we describe them first of all?

Because we're not talking about sort of built up edifices.

We're talking about full on shanty towns.

You know, the kind of things that if you go to even Mumbai, now you'll see behind some of the five star hotels.

These are places where people are just getting by, right?

But we're going to take a break soon.

But in summary, you've described these thriving hubs of Palestinian life, albeit in shantytowns.