Anna Sale

where you might make different decisions when it comes to these the interventions the surgical interventions like how do you think about that choice the truth is is that had i known all of the different things like not just the physical medical but the emotional the mental i probably wouldn't have started down the path and i think even though i'm satisfied and glad in a way it

Part of it's almost not worth it.

Do you know what I mean?

Yeah, we're gay men in L.A., and there isn't a day that goes by where we don't kind of get down on ourselves about it.

And it's sad.

It is, you know, it is sad.

And I think that our job, especially in sobriety, is to take that inventory, you know, and really look at maybe I have to go do something for somebody else.

Maybe I need to volunteer.

Like, how do I get out of myself, right?

Yeah.

Well, I definitely think.

The positives of those hard conversations is that we can skip to that part.

For me, I was so far gone when I was deciding about the surgeries.

Nobody could have said to me, this isn't a problem, and this isn't the way to fix it.

But they could now.

I think they could now.

And I would listen.

I live on a street where it's kind of common to see the same people.

I've lived here 14 years.

And this lady that lives two floors above me, she saw me.