Presenting Death, Sex & Money | From Brazilian Butt Lifts to Botox: Your Beauty Confessions
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Hi. Nice to see you. Thank you for doing this. Nice to see you too. Thanks for doing this with us. Hey guys, it's Kalila. The Heavyweight team is hard at work on some episode updates for later this spring, as well as a brand new season, which will be coming later this fall. But in the meantime, we wanted to wet your whistles, so to speak, with another show that we really respect and enjoy. It's called Death, Sex, and Money. It's a show about difficult and often awkward topics, like, you know, the stuff in the title, death, sex, and money. And recently, I spoke with the show's host, Anna Sale. I liked talking with Anna. She's a good listener, unlike our show's host, who sometimes, when I'm talking to him, gets this glazed look in his eyes, and I know he's just thinking about sandwiches.
The last time I talked to Anna, both of our shows had been canceled by their longtime networks. But look at us now, both back in action, making a victorious return to your podcatcher. You also have recently been repotted to a new home. Repotted, yes. How's it going? You know, I hope it feels for you like it feels for us. It's felt wonderful at our new home at Slate. We used to be at WNYC. And having that kind of big leap over the question of like, do we get to still do this? I think has made us just uh it feels really fun it feels more fun um and I feel like I'm a kid making my own zine in my back bedroom like I'm like no but I get to make this and it's my job yeah I do feel the same it like really makes me value the good things about this workplace and then also just to be like yeah I can't believe we get to make this show yeah um
Okay, so we are going to run one of your episodes today. It is about beauty interventions of all levels. Yeah, because, you know, the conversations about what we do to change the way we look, they sort of happen in these silos. There's like the makeup corner, the skincare corner, the GLP-1 corner, the like... I don't know, orthodontics corner if you've got kids who are in middle school. And so to just kind of look at it as a whole universe, wrinkles and teeth and balding and nose shape, it churned up a lot for lots of different people. Yeah, I just really loved it. I was really impressed with the way that you all handled it. I think like often in these conversations, it's easy to sort of strip the nuance out of stuff.
And I appreciated that you did not do that and sort of just let all the contradictions and complicated feelings exist. Yeah. I mean, I'm all over the place on this stuff because I I will like be in Wyoming where I spend time and there's all these like women with these deep grooves in their face and they have long like white braids. And I'm like, that's how I'm going to age. And then I come back to the Bay Area and I'm like, oh, yeah. I think that I should make a Botox appointment. Yeah, no, I hear you. So I am very, I sympathize with the people with mixed feelings because I am not fixed myself on this stuff. Yeah, especially because I feel like so much of that stripping down or assumption comes out of like a defensiveness about like your own insecurities, you know?
Yeah. Also, the way that we identify, like for me, being a woman in my mid 40s, like what sort of feminism am I going to like embrace for myself? What do I want to demonstrate for my kids? What are the judgments that I'm bringing to other people's choices? Or what am I withholding from myself? Because I think it would seem like I was too something if I pursued, I don't know. Like, if I just got my eyebrows better shaped more regularly, like, why do I have shame about thinking that might be important, you know? As you're saying that, what's ridiculous is I do get my eyebrows done regularly, and I have bangs, so, like, you can't even see them. But still, I'm like, I don't know, when they look really shaggy, I just don't like it, like...
Well, good for you. That really does open up your face when your eyebrows are shaved. Yes, it does. Great. Let's listen to the episode. And if you like it, which I'm sure you will, then listen to the rest of Death, Sex, and Money anywhere you get your podcasts.
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