Annabel

And there was a special episode on Tradwives with Marina talking to an academic about, you know, what this phenomenon means and is it actually very widespread or is it just that there's this handful of influencers making all this material?

Like, I mean, are there really squads of people making their own bread and...

you know, smoking things?

The answer is I think no, not as many as the sort of penetration of influencers would suggest.

But he did mention that, you know, Julia Gillard's outfit at King's College London, the Global Institute for Women's Leadership, has just done this huge study of like 25,000 people internationally about gender attitudes that finds that among Gen Y people

Conservative notions of like roles in marriage are run at about twice the rate of those sentiments in the baby boomer generation, which is like.

Wow.

Well, there's a high yes rate among this cohort.

I mean, I'm just cherry picking the research, but I went and read it immediately because it's so interesting.

well, there's Gen X in the middle, remember?

No, but we're talking about people younger than us, right?

And the rate of agreement that men are asked to do too much to, you know, support the feminist cause, actually it's like this quite high rate of agreement among that generation.

So

It's very, very interesting.

But I think the other strand of, and Marina goes into this a little bit with her guest, the other strand of trad wife life is just this idea of kind of,

ironically, pulling back from technological, you know, pulling back from modern life and doing things.

Other than your internet account apparently.

Right, apart from the fact that you then film it all and then download it and make a bajillion, you know, off the internet.

But, you know, nothing's perfect.

And he was talking about, just briefly, about the MAHA movement in the US, Make America Healthy Again, and that...