Anne Applebaum

I mean, you can see how much the U.S.

stands to lose just when you start to think about it.

I mean, it's funny.

So I talked to a Danish journalist just before talking to you who was asked me about where is this dramatic change coming from and so on.

And I said to him, have you not been paying attention?

Trump has been talking like this since 2015.

You know, the Russians invaded Ukraine in 2022.

It's now 2026.

All these trends were visible in the past, but it was actually the combination of Maduro and Greenland.

That has led to a new level of anxiety.

I mean, actually, the French president said a couple of days ago, America might not be our ally anymore.

You've heard the German chancellor say something similar in the last, you know, in recent days and weeks.

He said it more than once, actually.

And you, I am watching people.

The word I would use is hedge.

So people are beginning to look for hedges, rapidly looking for replacements for U.S.

systems, you know, rapidly talking about it doesn't happen much in public.

But there are a lot of behind the scenes conversations about what do we do in the case of a U.S.

invasion of Greenland?

Who responds and how?