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Anne Applebaum

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The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1024: Anne Applebaum: Everything Is a Game to Trump

Does the administration listen to the Supreme Court, which has demanded that. Oh, das ist interessant. Ich wusste das nicht. It means Main Camp Administration. And SISOT is also an acronym. And, you know, these are names given to institutions that have unclear powers and exist outside of the rule of law.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1024: Anne Applebaum: Everything Is a Game to Trump

And SISOT, from our point of view, is doubly outside the rule of law because it's outside of our country. So it's outside of our legal jurisdiction. It exists according to the unclear laws of some other country. Es ist vielleicht einfacher, mit Abrego Garcia zu sympathisieren, weil er unnötig ist und der Vater eines autistischen Kindes ist und er hat nie das Gesetz gebrochen.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1024: Anne Applebaum: Everything Is a Game to Trump

And SISOT, from our point of view, is doubly outside the rule of law because it's outside of our country. So it's outside of our legal jurisdiction. It exists according to the unclear laws of some other country. Es ist vielleicht einfacher, mit Abrego Garcia zu sympathisieren, weil er unnötig ist und der Vater eines autistischen Kindes ist und er hat nie das Gesetz gebrochen.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1024: Anne Applebaum: Everything Is a Game to Trump

And SISOT, from our point of view, is doubly outside the rule of law because it's outside of our country. So it's outside of our legal jurisdiction. It exists according to the unclear laws of some other country. Es ist vielleicht einfacher, mit Abrego Garcia zu sympathisieren, weil er unnötig ist und der Vater eines autistischen Kindes ist und er hat nie das Gesetz gebrochen.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1024: Anne Applebaum: Everything Is a Game to Trump

And he's married to a U.S. citizen and so on. But really, even the ugliest and most unpleasant people who were sent into this lawless zone, that was a grave violation of the spirit of our Constitution. What a rule of law society is designed to be is one where there aren't exceptions, there aren't emergencies, there aren't gray areas and gray zones.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1024: Anne Applebaum: Everything Is a Game to Trump

And he's married to a U.S. citizen and so on. But really, even the ugliest and most unpleasant people who were sent into this lawless zone, that was a grave violation of the spirit of our Constitution. What a rule of law society is designed to be is one where there aren't exceptions, there aren't emergencies, there aren't gray areas and gray zones.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1024: Anne Applebaum: Everything Is a Game to Trump

And he's married to a U.S. citizen and so on. But really, even the ugliest and most unpleasant people who were sent into this lawless zone, that was a grave violation of the spirit of our Constitution. What a rule of law society is designed to be is one where there aren't exceptions, there aren't emergencies, there aren't gray areas and gray zones.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1024: Anne Applebaum: Everything Is a Game to Trump

We have some already in our system, but this is an expansion of that. And it really is profoundly disturbing. And, you know, for that reason alone, it's really right that Senator Van Hollen went there to make that point.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1024: Anne Applebaum: Everything Is a Game to Trump

We have some already in our system, but this is an expansion of that. And it really is profoundly disturbing. And, you know, for that reason alone, it's really right that Senator Van Hollen went there to make that point.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1024: Anne Applebaum: Everything Is a Game to Trump

We have some already in our system, but this is an expansion of that. And it really is profoundly disturbing. And, you know, for that reason alone, it's really right that Senator Van Hollen went there to make that point.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1024: Anne Applebaum: Everything Is a Game to Trump

Oh, I mean, it was certainly a propaganda tool. And, you know, everything is about how it's packaged and how it's sold. Probably it matters as much inside El Salvador as it does in the US. You know, this will be an effort to, you know, to portray the prisons as nice places and the regime as fair. And maybe, as you say, also to somehow smear this particular man.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1024: Anne Applebaum: Everything Is a Game to Trump

Oh, I mean, it was certainly a propaganda tool. And, you know, everything is about how it's packaged and how it's sold. Probably it matters as much inside El Salvador as it does in the US. You know, this will be an effort to, you know, to portray the prisons as nice places and the regime as fair. And maybe, as you say, also to somehow smear this particular man.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1024: Anne Applebaum: Everything Is a Game to Trump

Oh, I mean, it was certainly a propaganda tool. And, you know, everything is about how it's packaged and how it's sold. Probably it matters as much inside El Salvador as it does in the US. You know, this will be an effort to, you know, to portray the prisons as nice places and the regime as fair. And maybe, as you say, also to somehow smear this particular man.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1024: Anne Applebaum: Everything Is a Game to Trump

You know, that doesn't mean that we are, we meaning the broader community, American community of people who still care about due process and the rule of law. We Democrats and Republicans and members of the legal establishment can't also use this incident as a way of making our points. And so I hope that we, I hope we find a way to do it.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1024: Anne Applebaum: Everything Is a Game to Trump

You know, that doesn't mean that we are, we meaning the broader community, American community of people who still care about due process and the rule of law. We Democrats and Republicans and members of the legal establishment can't also use this incident as a way of making our points. And so I hope that we, I hope we find a way to do it.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1024: Anne Applebaum: Everything Is a Game to Trump

You know, that doesn't mean that we are, we meaning the broader community, American community of people who still care about due process and the rule of law. We Democrats and Republicans and members of the legal establishment can't also use this incident as a way of making our points. And so I hope that we, I hope we find a way to do it.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1024: Anne Applebaum: Everything Is a Game to Trump

But yeah, I mean, you know, when you're dealing with a regime like that, like everything is a game and everything is a trick and everything, you know, will be somehow used to attack you. It's important maybe that Americans start to learn that propaganda is not just words or images. Propaganda is also actions.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1024: Anne Applebaum: Everything Is a Game to Trump

But yeah, I mean, you know, when you're dealing with a regime like that, like everything is a game and everything is a trick and everything, you know, will be somehow used to attack you. It's important maybe that Americans start to learn that propaganda is not just words or images. Propaganda is also actions.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1024: Anne Applebaum: Everything Is a Game to Trump

But yeah, I mean, you know, when you're dealing with a regime like that, like everything is a game and everything is a trick and everything, you know, will be somehow used to attack you. It's important maybe that Americans start to learn that propaganda is not just words or images. Propaganda is also actions.

The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1024: Anne Applebaum: Everything Is a Game to Trump

You can seek to make a political point through doing things, through staging events, through executive orders or through singling people out. Regimes like that of Bukele are adept at creating situations that are designed to um einen bestimmten Effekt zu haben. Und deshalb ist es Teil dessen, was die Antwort sein muss.