Anne Kelly
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first heard Aug 2019
last heard 18 Dec
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And so did you feel like people were really ready and able to talk about it or did you find that it felt there were so many invisible structures that it took some time for them to find the words to describe it?
policies.
It's like the underlying values.
And how we are prioritizing them.
And I noticed throughout some of the quotes, some one of the feelings that I came away with when I was reading the quotes in your paper is some degree of feeling fearful, fearful of getting in trouble if we don't do the right thing, fearful of repercussions either from h higher ups or patients and families if we don't so acting sort of to avoid consequence.
were kind of going through the motions.
I don't know if that's something that struck you too.
I was just when I listen to you, Liz, I think about how I think just t going back to what we talked about at the top of this episode, how I think Eric and Alex, we see that variation even within our own
Hospital, right?
The culture of the depending on who what teams are involved, the complexity of the patient care, whether we sometimes work with teams who want us to be co facilitating every meeting with patient and family, and others who say, You go have the conversation, let us know how it goes.
And everything's
I think it also
And it can be affected by how intensely emotional or challenging it has been to provide care in a different it can I think it can be influenced by a lot of things, but I think even in our institution we can see the variations of that and how much effort it can take to really figure out how to collaborate and work well together in the best interest of the patient.
And I think so much of what we're saying rings true to me to the idea of
The times in which providing care, coordinating care, feels really complicated is often a time when there's gaps in really strong, good communication across disciplines, across teams, when there's a lot of hands on deck, but maybe we're not all working with the same information.
And just to say it takes so much time and effort to communicate really well for this to be able to get everything.
Everybody on the same page and get a ship to go in the same direction that feels aligned with the patient's values.
And it's and to skip that or to minimize that process is gonna result in
a lot of, I think, difficult feelings, difficult emotions, and an outcome that that feels questionable.
Like did we really do right by this person as an as an individual?
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