Anne Morris

No, I know.

I know.

And getting feedback, getting early feedback.

This is a phenomenon back to our women in academia.

This is a phenomenon that you have observed from the beginning of your career that this perfectionist instinct would lead...

To take so much longer in writing the paper.

Meanwhile, the men were putting stuff out there, getting feedback, co-producing better results and really learning.

And the women were denying themselves that opportunity.

And the flawed story here is I cannot ask for help.

Asking for help is a sign of weakness.

Again, it will reveal that I don't belong here.

In fact, the pattern is even stronger that the people we see continuously rise in organizations, they truly excel at asking for help.

And this comes at a huge cost to organizations because people, in addition to people not being so far away from the frontier of what they can contribute, problems just don't get escalated at the right time.

And learning, it doesn't become infectious.

Give me a more mediocre team than a bunch of fantastic soloists.

All right, tell us about the superhero.

Yeah, the lie here, I mean, I love the kind of what's the lie in all these.

Yeah, the lie here is that in order to prove my value, I have to go above and beyond constantly.

The individual cost is kind of self-evident, maybe.

We've talked a lot about burnout in the show.