Annie Jacobsen
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309 appearances
2 recordings
1 series
first heard Jul 2026
last heard 29 Jul
Annie Jacobsen’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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Because in your intro, I cannot forget this, in your intro, you mentioned Ken Alaback.
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And he was one of the Soviet defectors.
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And there were a number of them.
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And I interviewed their CIA handlers for the book and learned a lot more.
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And I interviewed one of the world's experts on plague.
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at USAMRID, at the DOD's BSL-4 lab, who told me what Alibek was really doing and his team in the Cold War, in the Soviet bioweapons program.
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Never reported before.
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They were inserting, through gain of function, genetic modification, they were inserting the gene, this is what you're referring to, the traveler on the plane.
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the gene for euphoria.
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And so you may say to yourself, well, what on earth would that be for?
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What would it do?
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Think about it.
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If you're really sick,
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You go home and get under the covers and you don't infect anyone.
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But the Soviet sort of malevolent scientists thought if we inject euphoria into the pathogen, people will go out and socialize.
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They may even go to the disco and they will infect other people.
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That's a crazy detail that came.
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I got access to the journals of the originator of the super plague weapon program in Russia, a guy called Igor Domorodsky.
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And, you know, I love you comb through all this information and you find something that just kind of sums up the situation.
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And that was that they had a facility where they were working on plague south of Moscow in a town called Oblensk.
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