Annie Jacobsen

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309 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 29 Jul

Annie Jacobsen’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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It was like a tiny village. voice-verified
But they were so paranoid. voice-verified
This is in the 70s and 80s. voice-verified
They were so paranoid that the U.S. voice-verified
government was spying on them from space that they disguised the institute to be a mental institution. voice-verified
They even went so far as to hire actors who would wear pajamas and stand out there, sometimes in the snow, and play volleyball. voice-verified
I mean, that is a dark question, and we don't know that. voice-verified
I mean, it was the totalitarian countries. voice-verified
Um, have a different set of principles, if you will, about testing, you know, web drugs, essentially weapons, but you know, their program that the Soviets were working on, they called it, this is actually Alibaba's quote, I believe their Manhattan project, but even darker, their plan, he said, was to kill all the people in America and the West. voice-verified
And leave the infrastructure intact. voice-verified
And so you have this image of these like Soviet soldiers marching in with their high stepping boots and taking over because unlike nuclear, the buildings are still there. voice-verified
Yeah, it's just the basic concept of blowback that all of us in the 21st century are really clear about because. voice-verified
how quickly we can travel around the world. voice-verified
But think about it back in the 70s and the 80s when the first genetic modifications were going on. voice-verified
So you really have to think seriously about where we are now with things like CRISPR in terms of what can be done. voice-verified
But back in the day in sort of genetic modification 101, the Soviet Union was behind the wall. voice-verified
They did have this idea that they were the fortress on the hill. voice-verified
You absolutely have to. voice-verified
I mean, that's one of the things I write in the end of the book. voice-verified
you know, in the acknowledgements, I say the point is not necessarily panic, it's pressure. voice-verified
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