Annie Jacobsen
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first heard Jul 2026
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I was doing an interview with a former Pentagon war planner who planned biological catastrophes at the Pentagon.
And when he said to me that there is very little you can do to prevent catastrophe once a pathogen is released, only things to mitigate extermination, I really took pause.
It pretty much took my breath away.
Interestingly, that is a list that is designated and controlled by the CDC, which everyone's familiar with.
The CDC actually reports to the U.S.
Department of Health and Human Services, an organization with a budget twice that of the Defense Department, and yet many Americans are not familiar with HHS.
And it is the CDC who decides what is dangerous, what is tier one, what is a selectation.
And that is basically based on how lethal a pathogen would be were it to be weaponized and were it to get out.
What's fascinating and also horrifying is that the Defense Department classifies a biological incident, a catastrophe, as an attack, an intentional release, but also a lab accident.
And so the CDC and the DOD would work together in the event that a tier one select agent, everything from Ebola to plague were to be released.
Many of us have heard of BSL-4 and BSL-3 labs in the wake of the COVID pandemic.
This refers to biosafety level four.
That's a maximum containment facility.
BSL-3 is right below that.
It's interesting to know that before 9-11, before the anthrax attacks that followed, there were only two BSL-4 labs in the United States of America.
One was at Fort Detrick in Maryland, a Defense Department facility, the other at the CDC headquarters in Atlanta, Georgia.
Today, there are between 15 and 17 labs
BSL-4 labs in America, many in cities with millions of people living nearby.
Yes, it's good to remember that biological weapons are illegal.
Biological warfare is illegal.
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