Annie Jacobsen

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473 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Aug 2026 last heard 4 Aug

Annie Jacobsen’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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Talking Scared · 289 – Annie Jacobsen & Be Afraid… Be Very Afraid · 4 Aug 2026 podcast

But with rabies, there is a case. voice-verified

I interviewed the two top CIA counterproliferation officers. voice-verified

Jim Mad Dog Lawler. voice-verified

The reason he's called Mad Dog is because he was bitten by a rabid dog in Paris. voice-verified

That's a separate, that's just an anecdote. voice-verified

And Rolf Moe at Larson. voice-verified

These are the two sort of, you know, they went after the biological weapons programs of Al-Qaeda during the war on terror. voice-verified

And they have firsthand information. voice-verified

And Jim Lawler told me about Afia Siddiqui, voice-verified

who is the first female on the FBI's most wanted terrorist list. voice-verified

And she was captured in Afghanistan. voice-verified

She's an MIT-trained engineer, bioengineer. voice-verified

And she had in her pocketbook, her handbag when they captured her, plans to create a rabies chimera virus, meaning a genetically modified species of rabies voice-verified

that was mixed with chicken pox, which would make it highly transmissible, airborne, and unstoppable. voice-verified

And I thought about using that, and I thought that's a bridge too far. voice-verified

And furthermore, people are going to have to start killing their pets in this scenario, and I'm not willing to do that. voice-verified

And I knew Neil's, I secretly knew Neil's fear of rabies, and I just wanted to make sure I didn't scare you too much. voice-verified

Well, you know, what's terrifying is that information about Afia Siddiqui has never been revealed publicly before. voice-verified

And I got secondary confirmation from it from one of the president's advisors. voice-verified

And it's just really almost too terrifying to contemplate. voice-verified

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