Annie Jacobsen

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473 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Aug 2026 last heard 4 Aug

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Talking Scared · 289 – Annie Jacobsen & Be Afraid… Be Very Afraid · 4 Aug 2026 podcast

And I knew that I wouldn't write those details into the book because some of them are just too difficult to comprehend. voice-verified

But I also knew I was throwing a lot of these air quote heroes under the bus like Wernher von Braun that America had on pedestals because the government completely lied about their Nazi past. voice-verified

And I wanted to make sure that I, as a journalist, was not exaggerating their roles in certain things. voice-verified

And so I went to Dachau and I met with the lead archivist and I asked to see the photographs and the films, because of course the Nazis documented everything, with my own eyes, knowing that I was not going to report that, but I needed to know inside my heart what I was doing. voice-verified

you know, I was essentially throwing these Nazis under the bus with good reason. voice-verified

And I did look at those images and I will never forget what I saw and I wouldn't want to share them. voice-verified

The reason that I kept the focus sort of tight on America is because, yes, that is where all of the expertise was coming from for me. voice-verified

And also because preparing for this kind of godforsaken event is primarily limited to the Clinton era forward. voice-verified

when the wall came down and the Soviet biological weapons program was revealed forward. voice-verified

And so, whereas nuclear, I really do involve the whole world because there were so many declassified documents for me to look at. voice-verified

And Soviet Russia was such a component of all this. voice-verified

And there was so much information about what would happen around the world because the Defense Department was looking at the numbers of dead and how people would die, you know, across the Cold War. voice-verified

So I could factually present information about people all around the world. voice-verified

And I found that was very, very impactful. voice-verified

What's spooky about biological warfare preparing for it is that the documents that have been declassified are specific to America. voice-verified

And while I did interview voice-verified

a former defense minister in Italy, for example, because that had a COVID string. voice-verified

And I interviewed the defense minister from South Korea because I was very interested in their position on the North because North Korea has a massive biological weapons program. voice-verified

This was very limited information I could gather because these programs are so highly classified. voice-verified

I think also because it would cause panic. voice-verified

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