Annie Jacobsen

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473 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Aug 2026 last heard 4 Aug

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Talking Scared · 289 – Annie Jacobsen & Be Afraid… Be Very Afraid · 4 Aug 2026 podcast

You have to take shout. voice-verified

There's airlocks like a submarine to get in to make sure nothing ever gets out. voice-verified

But a BSL-3 lab deals with extremely dangerous pathogens, plague, voice-verified

is handled in that, hantavirus. voice-verified

So there is no doubt that a BSL-3 lab leak. voice-verified

In fact, the Wuhan lab in question, where many people believe the coronavirus leaked from, was a BSL-2 lab. voice-verified

And so they had like seriously deficient safety standards there. voice-verified

But I make clear that America leads the charge with these 17 BSL-4 labs, but there are 110 voice-verified

BSL-4 labs around the world in 34 countries. voice-verified

When you're talking about BSL-3, 3,500 of them, many of them in places where there are wars going on. voice-verified

91% of those BSL-3 labs do not have safety standards that are agreed upon around the world. voice-verified

And other places and other places. voice-verified

That information is easily Google-able, but what it is not is collected by a government entity. voice-verified

In other words, it's academics who put together those figures. voice-verified

And I write a little bit about that in the book, how that's a problem. voice-verified

I do want to have one comment about narrative because I really had a North Star moment. voice-verified

And when I say that, I mean like, voice-verified

I wondered with myself the same question you asked me, like how do you balance journalism, like making sure you're objective, at least this is old school journalism, voice-verified

which is how I was trained. voice-verified

You do not bring politics into it, just the facts. voice-verified

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