Annie Jacobsen

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473 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Aug 2026 last heard 4 Aug

Annie Jacobsen’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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Talking Scared · 289 – Annie Jacobsen & Be Afraid… Be Very Afraid · 4 Aug 2026 podcast

I couldn't get DARPA to call me back. voice-verified

And just last week, I was invited to do a Q&A on the biobook for DARPA. voice-verified

Just last week. voice-verified

And I thought, my goodness, you know, like now I have grown kids so I can kind of tell them like, guys, you just keep at it. voice-verified

And, you know, story changes because at the very end of the Q&A that I did, they gave me a medal and they shook my hand and took photographs and made a joke that was like, Annie, you know, and they had a copy of my book and said, we all read your book. voice-verified

And they said, we only wish you had called us. voice-verified

And I said, wait, you know, in the middle of this, wait a minute, guys. voice-verified

I called, you know, I famously did an interview on NPR when the DARPA book came out. voice-verified

And the NPR people doing their due diligence as NPR's National Public Radio said, you know, we heard from DARPA that you never contacted them and they're very upset. voice-verified

At which point I pulled up, because I knew it was coming, my AT&T phone record showing voice-verified

I had called DARPA 11 times and sent them emails and they refused to answer any questions. voice-verified

So the DARPA folks last week said, well, that's the difference between public perception and intention. voice-verified

And it also speaks volumes, I think, to the bigger question that people really get interested in, which is how does a reporter get access to something that is secret? voice-verified

And the moral of the story is do not try and call public affairs. voice-verified

You will not get an answer. voice-verified

You have to work with individual people. voice-verified

And that is actually a great message, I think. voice-verified

No, but we're talking about narrative. voice-verified

And I think it's very interesting because narrative always echoes human experience. voice-verified

And I think maybe what we're talking about is making sense of something, which is really important in your own life. voice-verified

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