Anthony Pompliano

And it's found product market fit.

This is why I believe so heavily in hyperliquid is because they are going to quickly take over

price discovery in these assets because there's so many billions of people in the world who do not have access to a Schwab account to buy a stock or trade an oil contract, right?

They just can't do it.

It's just not allowed, not an offer to them.

Now they've got hyperliquid.

10x, 20x leverage.

You give me some stablecoin or Bitcoin or hype.

I give you some leverage.

And now you can trade an expressive view on this whenever you like.

This is the game-changing thing.

And Coinbase and Binance, these are very slower companies in a crypto sense.

And they're servicing a different market.

They've got different pressures.

And they're not going to be able to respond as quickly as a team of 11 people who ship code as fast as Hyperliquid.

So that's why I'm super bullish on that.

And I think this is the biggest challenge.

How do you stay relevant?

as a centralized exchange to the retail people who pay your bills when you have this challenger who has created a permissionless product where anyone who can stake, I think, 500,000 hype can list any market that they want.

And now hype is coming for the prediction markets with HIP4, which should be coming out in a few weeks.