Anthony Rizzo

Yeah.

Well, I think one part to that question is we we had guys like you, Lester Lackey, who had done it before with, you know, the Red Sox and everything.

So you all kind of understood and set that precedent going into 15, I believe.

Yep.

And then also, I mean, I think just when you just start winning, it gets contagious and you start to realize it as it's happening.

And you're like, you want to be a part of it.

You want to be a part of it.

A hundred percent.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The thing too, the thing too with bullpens over my career is like, dude, you guys are on islands.

Like you guys throw your own time.

You stretch your own time.

The starters are on their own program, but the starters are at least in the dugout with feel.

I can go, if you want in the big leagues, you can go a month without seeing a reliever.

Especially with the clubhouses today and how big they are.

That's one thing I love about Joe.

Show up, get your work in.

I used to hate, and this is more of a younger thing, when I came up,

Like Adrian Beltre was my locker mate.