Anthony Scilipoti

And so I think it's more than just shareholder value calculated that way.

Oftentimes by relationships.

That's correct.

We also have a board in our foundation.

And I want to bring on people that are going to make us better.

That might mean that some conversations are not always, yes, Anthony, yes, Anthony.

I actually don't want that.

I want even in my own partners and my own employees, I welcome, please come in.

The door's open.

Tell me what I'm doing wrong.

We're not going to get better.

I'm not going to get better if someone doesn't tell me I'm doing something wrong.

That is an uncommon view.

But it's the only way to progress, I believe.

I'm not saying that we're going to decide what you said, but I want to hear it.

And the danger, they say, well, if you listen to it and then don't do anything about it, then it's like you disregarded it.

I said, no, you listen to it and you go back to the person.

Thanks for the input.

Here's what we've decided to do as a result of what you've said.

And then they feel like they were part of it.