Aoife White

I mean, the Silicon Valley venture capitalists coming at you with lots of cash and lots of help.

I mean, that's something that's been quite engineered here.

Yes, and that's being talked about.

This is part of this whole idea of how do you unlock that saving, particularly pension funds?

How do you invest that back into the economy?

And the US is much, much better at that.

And I think that's maybe one of the tragic things of Europe, that it is sitting on money and that it isn't being used as productively as it could be.

So that should definitely be something that should happen and could really help.

So is regulation the magic wand?

And does the current deregulation

that the EU has going on, is that going to make a huge difference?

It's not going to turn us into Silicon Valley tomorrow, no.

How do you get off US tech?

I mean, I tried to find somebody recently and I did in January who had managed to dump all his US tech.

But that's very, very hard.

And I don't think most of us are doing that.

I mean, we are.

We're joined at the hip might be too strong, but we are very dependent on US tech.

We like it.

We'll keep using it.