Apollo Robbins
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34 appearances
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1 series
first heard Feb 2025
last heard Feb 2025
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And so I went off to a beauty shop that was nearby, grabbed a latex sponge, cut it up to look like a pea, and it would work a lot better for their game. But I was going to use that as an offering, as a gift. So when their team split up, I noticed one signal they use is tugging on the sleeve. And that indicates, tug on the sleeve, I need you to meet me back at this spot.
So when I saw that, I tugged on the sleeve of the operator, and I said, a gift, and I just put the ball in his hand. And he tugged on my sleeve for me to follow him. So him and I walked off to the side, and I took money out, said, bring some money out. And we did this game. It was an old slap game. And he saw that he could make money with that without even seeing it.
So he had a translator who said, have him meet me for dinner.
If they started to cross that line, they'd have to let us know so we could pull them out of the team. Eventually, it started falling apart. There was a pickpocket that we had introduced to a cop, and the cop, because we had introduced him, took his kind of under his wing. The pickpocket started hustling him and getting him to do certain things.
I felt responsible for facilitating that relationship. I kind of tried to break it. The initial model of just kind of being a consulting agency that had subject matter experts on deception. As I went along, I started to see that there was an itch that a lot of those guys had that wasn't going to get scratched on the legal side of it.
That was a promise I made when we married that I would do it every day. I would always give her a surprise every day.
Small ones or big ones, but it's always been an important part, I think, for us to keep each other on the back foot.
We asked them, you know, we couldn't come to a name and we need your help. And we asked everybody to write down a name that they like and we trust them as friends and we trust their opinions. And to drop them in a box and we're going to draw the name out of a box and that will be our daughter's name. And it made everybody very tense. And then we had one of them draw the name out of the box.
And they said, Maya. I said, that's amazing. That seems like, I'm so happy you've chosen that name. Because it matches everything we have. And then we showed the balloons and we showed these banners and everything. They all came out that all said Maya.
A lot of parents want to teach their kids critical thinking. And we often say that critical thinking isn't a good enough term. So for her, we want her to question reality.
You know, we're all puppets. We all have strings. Here are the strings that you should know that can be pulled. And now it's her choice. Does she pull strings or does she recognize when her strings are being pulled?
I think that's if we were to tell ourselves the same stories that those guys that we met before did. That's the stories they would tell themselves, that I just need to do this one more con, this one more thing. It probably wouldn't be pickpocketing. It'd probably be something else. But do we have the toolbox and the skill sets? Probably yes.
But the cost and the risk associated with that, plus we have a daughter. What do we want her to grow up to be? So I think those are things that stop us.
Yeah, most people have an illusion of invulnerability. I'm too smart or I'm too aware. And I think what we have is that we know what is possible.
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