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So he knows the game.

But I remember seeing in his kind of eyes, he didn't expect the meeting to go like that.

So obviously they've left now and we've got a load of different meetings set up.

And he was like, that was sick.

Like,

Basically, I didn't know you was going to do that.

And so what we'd done, by the time, we had every label near enough knock by the end of it, and we'd had this kind of thing.

Even though I was very business-minded, we would sit and plan together what we're going to say to them, what we want, but I would let him do it.

So we'd come up with it together, and then I would play the character of just this cheeky young kid.

So the island had come, and...

I can't remember.

I think the offer at the time, I'll speak about the money.

I've never spoken about the money before, but I'll speak about it.

I think what we were trying to get was 60 grand for an EP, which is like six or seven tunes.

It has to be 25 minutes long, whatever.

I remember at the time, so EMI was also under Universal.

And a guy, the industry with Archie, there was a guy that worked there.

I think it might have been the president.

Archie, his name is, isn't it?

I'd been made aware he was offering...