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And Jane, you wrote a book that our last guest, Shante Joseph, said was a bit of an inspiration for her viral article.

The book was called The Tragedy of Heterosexuality.

I guess I'll start with the obvious question then.

What's so tragic about it?

Are you finding that heterosexuality is in trouble, that it is at some crossroads?

You know, I think this is an important point.

You know, you're making clear how, on one hand, the idea of partners as companions, particularly heterosexual relationships as companions of mutual interest is a fairly new idea.

But it's at odds with the culture that is often producing men who seem incapable of creating those relationships.

Do you think the discourse around heterosexuality is changing?

Like, how should we qualify how we think about straight relationships now, even versus, you know, five, ten years ago?

Can you define heteropessimism for us?

You know, and it reminds me of a conversation that happens in kind of my political reporting world about the growing gap, particularly among men and women and younger generations.

There's a lot of data that tells us that, you know, women have gone to the left as men have gone to the right.

We've seen this kind of explored in social media with trad wifey phenomenons versus a podcast, bro, red pilling.

You know, I wanted to put that in front of you, like, how much do we think this is a broader change in culture that's reflected in relationships versus how much is this being, you know, driven by the individuals?