Astead Herndon

All of them happening at once.

Yes.

You know, I wanted to ask about, like, fixes, solutions.

Like, some of this, you know, in the heteropessimism of it all can feel just like a growing divide that shows no signs of getting closer.

Is that how you see it?

Like, are there any answers to this gap beyond, you know, don't be straight?

They'll be friends with women.

Thank you so much for your time.

We really appreciate it.

Jane Ward's book is The Tragedy of Heterosexuality.

Today's show was produced by Avishai Artsy and edited by Amina El-Sadi.

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I'm Ested Herndon, and this is Today Explained.

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