Atsuko Okatsuka
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I didn't know until I was like 16 that I was undocumented and what that event meant.
Because I wanted to suddenly drive like all my friends at school, like everyone was getting their permits.
And I said, Grandma, I want to drive, too.
You know, none of us drive.
And then I can drive us around.
And the bus, I don't, we don't have to take the bus anymore.
You know, you're old, you know, and it'll be easy on us.
And she goes, well, you can't drive.
You can't do that because we don't have social security numbers.
And I was like, oh, like that was the first time I had realized, you know.
I was, yeah, because I wanted to do.
So it's like, it comes to like bureaucracy, paperwork stuff, right?