Austin Goolsbee

I'm pretty optimistic that we can get rates down further, multiple cuts in 2026, as long as we see the progress on inflation that forecasters have been forecasting, that it's supposed to start coming down.

And I just want us to see some progress on that front and not get ahead of ourselves.

I think that the policy uncertainty, we're seeing more on the labor side.

I think the low hiring, low firing environment

is what you would expect when there's a lot of uncertainty.

That's not really what the beginning of a recession looks like.