Avery Truffleman

I mean, yeah, it does.

But this is also like part of the water we swim in.

And it's another thing that made me realize I used to be so vehemently against war.

like field jackets, camo, combat boots.

I would never touch any of that stuff.

And after doing this series, I'm like, this is my history too.

Like I have a say in this.

And not only do I pay taxes, but like I have opinions and I like, I am a, I am a civilian, but this is also totally my history.

And like, I think you can, you can do it too.

So this is going to be in the last episode that I'm working on, but a lot of soldiers have sort of requested that citizens become a little bit more

literate about not, I shouldn't say current events, because it's really hard to keep up with everything, but like the current state of war.

And I think becoming camo literate for me has been a part of it.

It's like, oh, not that camo, but other kinds of camos are really great.

So I think it's like understanding camo differences to me.

I'm curious, with this series, and I think Ivy as well, it's a lot of men and men's fashion.

And we heard a little bit in that first episode, you're talking about how men, they don't want to think about style.

They don't want to think about fashion.

It's about functionality, which I think there's a lot of truth to that.

But I was curious for you, what has it been like to spend so much time in the heads of these manly men?

And what have you learned?