Avery Truffleman

Well, so we were having this little exchange backstage just now where I was like, oh, Chad, we kind of match.

We do kind of match in what we're wearing.

And Chad was like, oh, I was really worried about what to wear tonight because you're a fashion journalist.

And I do get this sometimes.

People are like, oh, I want to impress you because you work in fashion.

But I don't really know anything about, well...

Yeah, it's not like I cover the runways or what's going on right now in fashion.

I'm very curious about the messages that we're all sending out with our clothes and the messages we think we're sending out with our clothes.

And those are all based on a shared set of symbols and a shared set of assumptions.

Which means it's like history.

We have to like go back and see where these all came from, you know?

Like why do certain cuts of pants equal Western?

Why do certain kinds of shirts equal preppy?

It shouldn't really, right?

It's just a shirt.

Like the shirt doesn't have any particular, it's just a piece of cloth.

But yeah, I'm really interested in both the history and like the literal manufacture of where these things come from.

And so when my biggest pet peeve in podcasting is when someone says, but to understand that first, we have to go back in time.

But it's so hard not to say, because that's what I want to say all the time.

Like to get into the history, you like present something and then you're like, but to understand that first, we have to go back in time.