Avi Loeb

Why?

Because the amount of sunlight reflected from it.

I want to hold this.

I want to hold this after the break because this is what everyone wants to hear.

Before we get to Oumuamua, go back to aliens for just a second.

Do you think that the gray aliens that people talk about, are they really seeing aliens?

Well, I don't know until I see the evidence.

You see, the problem with stories is that you don't know whether to believe those stories.

And we all know about people that were put on death row because there were eyewitness testimonies asserting conclusively that they are guilty of the crime that they committed.

And then DNA evidence came along and proved them innocent.

How do you explain that?

Well, because humans often reach the wrong conclusions.

They have wishful thinking.

So I can imagine a situation where there is a unit within government for retrieval and reverse engineering of DNA.

debris from crash sites.

Why can I imagine that to be actually the case?

It's because that was a technique used by all nations to spy on their adversaries.

Of course.

If you find a fighter jet that was produced by the Soviet Union, you would like to look at all the electronics there and figure out the weak points.

And the same is true now of drones, for example.