Avi Loeb

Let's look.

And Elon himself is doubtful.

I don't know.

I'm willing to put a bet with him that if we invest the money, similarly to the search for microbes, we might find it.

Because without putting the billions of dollars towards the search, how do you expect to find something easily?

I mean, so I'm saying let's hedge our bets.

This is the most sensible thing to do because...

under sim to argue that under similar circumstances you get similar outcomes and you know we are not the pinnacle of creation just read the news every day there's so many uh things that i would love to change in the way that humans operate sure um so saying that we are the top of the food chain is really arrogant and i say let's not be arrogant because that will maintain our ignorance

And I say, okay, you're willing to put $10 billion.

By the way, this is the flagship mission that was the highest priority within the mainstream astronomy community.

$10 billion, fine.

But let's put a few billions also to the search for technological signatures because they are conclusive if we find them.

And

I've, you know, just saying that there are residents in some of these houses is not speculative, it's not heresy, it's common sense.

And the amazing thing is the public gets it and the public is extremely excited about it.

So when I talk about it, I get attention and that infuriates my colleagues because how dare you give him a platform to speak about this.

Too bad, we're gonna keep talking about it.

Avi, given what we know about exoplanets, do we have an update to Drake's equation?

How many could be out there?

well, there are at least a few per star, okay?