Avi Loeb

In principle, he could have said, I have no time for your mission.

He agreed to analyze the data, and we published papers talking about chemical composition of some of the material, 10% of it, which is not solar system material.

This is beryllium, lanthanum, and uranium.

So why is that unusual, that combination?

Well, they come at a thousand times higher abundance, these elements that you just mentioned, compared to solar system materials.

And we said, okay, where is it from?

We've never seen that before.

This is a new composition, never found in any other place.

So tell us about the rebuttal.

The rebuttal paper says it's like industrial.

No, so we then checked.

So they said, oh, it may be coal ash.

Coal ash, that's right.

Yeah, so we had to go to check the composition, the abundance pattern of coal ash, compared it, and it's not the same.

It's not the same.

By orders of magnitude.

And then they said, well, maybe these are tektites.

So we check tektites.

And so, you know, you keep doing that.

And every time someone, and then someone wrote a paper, oh, you went to the wrong place because this seismic signal that was detected on Papua New Guinea