Aza Raskin
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521 appearances
3 recordings
2 series
first heard Mar 2026
last heard 27 Aug
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So is there anything any other ask that you'd actually make of the labs directly? 'Cause uh often people from the labs are are are listening.
I hope everyone that's listening actually helps to uh to to make these things happen.
And we've certainly learned with social media that often people inside the companies really do want to do the right thing.
It's just it takes outside pressure to shift company behavior to to do it.
Um
And so there's there's a really nice sort of like inside outside like game that that happens where where the outside pressure can can help.
So let's get back to a second for like the theory of change and changing the incentives.
Um
Imagine that you know you've convinced one of the companies and they've adopted, you know, the top three, five set of humane evals.
Like w w what are those and walk me through that world and then sort of like what happens next?
Like what what is the world that we're trying to make?
Yeah.
What I'm what I'm hearing you say is not about getting the right eval, 'cause that'll that'll shift is about getting the right eval ling.
The like the verb version and that the
forces that are working on increasing and measuring the capabilities of AI models needs to be met by the forces working on figuring out how they affect human beings at scale.
And that's really like the field that that we're trying trying to birth.
Um it's r it's a really beautiful thing.
Go on.
That leads to a really important question, which is what can people listening to this podcast do?
Um, you know, everyone from like researchers to technologists to concerned citizens.
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