Aza Raskin
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first heard Mar 2026
last heard 27 Aug
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They instead get to turn to all the like the the empirical research on that.
So I'm curious if you guys have any thoughts on that before I turn to the final question of this this section.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I I love that.
I can also imagine, you know, just so people can paint in their mind the picture of like how might these get tied to some kind of like legal protection.
Imagine, you know, one of the evals, humane evals ends up being about um creation of addictive use or compulsive use or dependency.
Like now that we have a a good evaluation of which models do that and to what degree.
You hook that up and say, well, you know, if you're if your model is creating dependent use, then it just we're gonna slow down the number of tokens you can send back to the user so that chats just take longer in the same way that like when streets people are moving too fast down them, you you add speed bumps and you just slow it down.
Um and that could be like a very direct kind of regulation um that doesn't touch content, but just starts to break the cycles of like bad use.
I think probably a lot of listeners are wondering, like, ha have you just talked to people at the labs about this work and the need for this work and w what have they said?
And are are like to what extent are they already doing that?
Or do they say, Yeah, just
Walk walk me through what those conversations are like if you've had them.
Yeah.
O often we learned this in social media, that people that are working on safety and integrity are cost centers for the company.
They create liability.
Um and so that means there's always a downward incentive pressure to like underfund them, which means that really good people get underfunded.
have too small of a team are working on psychologically challenging issues at scale so that they burn out and then they leave.
Um
And that cycle sort of continues.
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