Baroness Louise Casey

But that could be either my mother or sister Eta, probably both of them.

very important women in my lives, no longer with us, but it sort of got deep into me, this sense that then you contribute, and when you contribute, you're able to then, when you fall on hard times, take.

And that, for me, is the whole thing.

But in 1948, essentially, the average life expectancy of gentlemen was about 30 years less than it is now,

And it was 28 years less for us women.

So we are living fantastically for so much longer than when the welfare state was created.

And I think in my mind, we've never really had a reckoning moment that says the welfare state didn't miss social care out.

It didn't need social care in the same way.

Also, women, we now let men live longer.

Sorry, I laugh at my own jokes.

It's a terrible thing.

Somebody has to laugh at them.

I do love men.

Don't worry.

It's all fine.

You're welcome.

I'm very good with homeless men as well.

Or they allow me to help them.

But essentially, the other thing, the dynamic was, A, we live for so much longer than we did.

But when we live for so much longer, we're often poorly for a longer time towards the end.