Baroness Louise Casey

And that has complications.

It's not live, die.

It's more complicated than that.

And that's a good thing.

The other dynamic is, you know, and I say this because I am a lapsed Catholic, but I'm a Catholic.

When I was growing up, we had kids with Down syndrome in every family, in every school in my neighbourhood and childhood.

And the average age for somebody with Down syndrome then was 12.

Now it's 60.

So it's a huge difference between 1948 and now and it's a wonderful difference that children born with disabilities in many cases they live for so much longer.

And then the other one I think that is really interesting of course is women didn't work outside the home.

Now we work outside the home and we can thank the war and emancipation for other things for that.

But we are no longer on tap all day, every day to look after families.

Unpaid carers.

So these huge things basically, I think, are not straightforward for us to sort out.

And that's the genesis of the Social Care Commission.

Both.

I think that we'll do the analysis, we'll put out the evidence that I've just described and more.

This year?

Absolutely this year.

Before the summer?