Barry Weiss

And they did it despite America's prohibition on shipping our most advanced microchips to China.

And they did it despite America's prohibition on shipping our most advanced microchips to China.

And they did it despite America's prohibition on shipping our most advanced microchips to China.

America was caught flat-footed, asking, how did this even happen? And could we actually lose this tech war? Now, if your understanding of computers stops at the word hard drive, don't worry. I have two incredible guests, experts on both AI and China, who are going to break it all down for you.

America was caught flat-footed, asking, how did this even happen? And could we actually lose this tech war? Now, if your understanding of computers stops at the word hard drive, don't worry. I have two incredible guests, experts on both AI and China, who are going to break it all down for you.

America was caught flat-footed, asking, how did this even happen? And could we actually lose this tech war? Now, if your understanding of computers stops at the word hard drive, don't worry. I have two incredible guests, experts on both AI and China, who are going to break it all down for you.

Tyler Cowen is an economics professor, an AI expert, and a must-read writer at his blog Marginal Revolution. He is the author of over a dozen books, but frankly, I've lost count. He is joined today by Jeffrey Cain, an expert on China and the author of The Perfect Police State, an undercover odyssey into China's terrifying surveillance dystopia of the future.

Tyler Cowen is an economics professor, an AI expert, and a must-read writer at his blog Marginal Revolution. He is the author of over a dozen books, but frankly, I've lost count. He is joined today by Jeffrey Cain, an expert on China and the author of The Perfect Police State, an undercover odyssey into China's terrifying surveillance dystopia of the future.

Tyler Cowen is an economics professor, an AI expert, and a must-read writer at his blog Marginal Revolution. He is the author of over a dozen books, but frankly, I've lost count. He is joined today by Jeffrey Cain, an expert on China and the author of The Perfect Police State, an undercover odyssey into China's terrifying surveillance dystopia of the future.

We talk about how this happened, what it means. Is it a 21st century Sputnik moment? And if so, is China now officially ahead of us in the AI race? Stay with us. Tyler Cowen and Jeffrey Cain, welcome to Honestly.

We talk about how this happened, what it means. Is it a 21st century Sputnik moment? And if so, is China now officially ahead of us in the AI race? Stay with us. Tyler Cowen and Jeffrey Cain, welcome to Honestly.

We talk about how this happened, what it means. Is it a 21st century Sputnik moment? And if so, is China now officially ahead of us in the AI race? Stay with us. Tyler Cowen and Jeffrey Cain, welcome to Honestly.

Okay, the biggest news in the world of AI dropped, at least from my perspective, out of nowhere last week. And that news did not come out of California. It didn't come out of Silicon Valley. It came out of China. Tyler Cowen, tell us about DeepSeek, what it is, and why it matters.

Okay, the biggest news in the world of AI dropped, at least from my perspective, out of nowhere last week. And that news did not come out of California. It didn't come out of Silicon Valley. It came out of China. Tyler Cowen, tell us about DeepSeek, what it is, and why it matters.

Okay, the biggest news in the world of AI dropped, at least from my perspective, out of nowhere last week. And that news did not come out of California. It didn't come out of Silicon Valley. It came out of China. Tyler Cowen, tell us about DeepSeek, what it is, and why it matters.

You seem to have been using DeepSeek before it was even a headline in the news. Did you somehow get early access to this product?

You seem to have been using DeepSeek before it was even a headline in the news. Did you somehow get early access to this product?

You seem to have been using DeepSeek before it was even a headline in the news. Did you somehow get early access to this product?

When I wrote you about it, here's what you emailed me back. DeepSeek is not so PC like the American programs, though, of course, it is packed with Chinese restrictions, which we'll talk about in a second. But it's really fun to chat with, has lots of personality, a kind of Barry Weiss LLM. I guess I should be flattered by that.

When I wrote you about it, here's what you emailed me back. DeepSeek is not so PC like the American programs, though, of course, it is packed with Chinese restrictions, which we'll talk about in a second. But it's really fun to chat with, has lots of personality, a kind of Barry Weiss LLM. I guess I should be flattered by that.