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When I wrote you about it, here's what you emailed me back. DeepSeek is not so PC like the American programs, though, of course, it is packed with Chinese restrictions, which we'll talk about in a second. But it's really fun to chat with, has lots of personality, a kind of Barry Weiss LLM. I guess I should be flattered by that.
But tell me about the personality and tell me a little bit about the restrictions.
But tell me about the personality and tell me a little bit about the restrictions.
But tell me about the personality and tell me a little bit about the restrictions.
Wow. Jeff, do you want to add a little bit to that before we talk about the implications of it? Have you yourself been using it?
Wow. Jeff, do you want to add a little bit to that before we talk about the implications of it? Have you yourself been using it?
Wow. Jeff, do you want to add a little bit to that before we talk about the implications of it? Have you yourself been using it?
Okay, well, the major headline and the reason that this has caused such a stir – and this was the surface headline. We'll get into whether or not it was true – It appeared as if a small Chinese startup surpassed what we believed until that moment was sort of the bleeding edge of this technology and that they did it for $6 million over the course of about two months.
Okay, well, the major headline and the reason that this has caused such a stir – and this was the surface headline. We'll get into whether or not it was true – It appeared as if a small Chinese startup surpassed what we believed until that moment was sort of the bleeding edge of this technology and that they did it for $6 million over the course of about two months.
Okay, well, the major headline and the reason that this has caused such a stir – and this was the surface headline. We'll get into whether or not it was true – It appeared as if a small Chinese startup surpassed what we believed until that moment was sort of the bleeding edge of this technology and that they did it for $6 million over the course of about two months.
Now, for comparison, OpenAI reportedly spent $100 million training its last model. It has 20 times the number of employees. The numbers that we're talking about here just were a fraction of what we consider to be par for the course here in the United States.
Now, for comparison, OpenAI reportedly spent $100 million training its last model. It has 20 times the number of employees. The numbers that we're talking about here just were a fraction of what we consider to be par for the course here in the United States.
Now, for comparison, OpenAI reportedly spent $100 million training its last model. It has 20 times the number of employees. The numbers that we're talking about here just were a fraction of what we consider to be par for the course here in the United States.
Now, the question is whether or not that's actually true, whether or not they were actually able to do this on such a small budget and in a very short amount of time. So, Tyler, what's the truth there? Where did the headline get it wrong?
Now, the question is whether or not that's actually true, whether or not they were actually able to do this on such a small budget and in a very short amount of time. So, Tyler, what's the truth there? Where did the headline get it wrong?
Now, the question is whether or not that's actually true, whether or not they were actually able to do this on such a small budget and in a very short amount of time. So, Tyler, what's the truth there? Where did the headline get it wrong?
Well, there are a lot of theories floating around about how DeepSeek pulled this off. The company claims that they did this without what until now we had all viewed as the sort of crucial component, which are these advanced chips. Do you guys buy DeepSeek's claims here that they built this advanced AI without the chips?
Well, there are a lot of theories floating around about how DeepSeek pulled this off. The company claims that they did this without what until now we had all viewed as the sort of crucial component, which are these advanced chips. Do you guys buy DeepSeek's claims here that they built this advanced AI without the chips?
Well, there are a lot of theories floating around about how DeepSeek pulled this off. The company claims that they did this without what until now we had all viewed as the sort of crucial component, which are these advanced chips. Do you guys buy DeepSeek's claims here that they built this advanced AI without the chips?
Or did they find a way around the export control that had been set up by the Biden White House? Jeff, you want to take that one?