Barry Weiss
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first heard Dec 2024
last heard Mar 2025
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The thing I want to stick on just for a second is the nature of why people are scared. Looking at this from the outside, I think there's good reason to be scared. In other words, when you're living in a country in which a member of parliament – and I'm thinking now of Mike Freer, I believe his name is – basically resigns from parliament because of so many threats to his life –
Because he has had the gall to do things like stand up for his Jewish constituency or stand up for Israel, had to walk around wearing a stab vest, had his office, I think, was the victim of an arson attack and ultimately thought, screw this, this isn't worth it. This is not worth my life, which is frankly a pretty rational conclusion.
Or just when you think about why is the average British person not caring? Well, maybe it's because looking at the nature of the problem is pretty terrifying. If you look at the nature of the problem here, you could arguably say – Holy shit. Excuse my language.
A lot of people have been led into this country that do not share basic fundamental British or Western values of toleration and pluralism and liberalism broadly defined. There doesn't seem to be a plan on the part of either party to solve that. And so we're just going to kind of wish it away. From my perspective, that seems to be a huge dynamic at play here. of why people don't want to look.
It's because when you look, the nature of the thing feels so big.
More with Ayan and Julie after the break. Please stay with us. Let's talk a little bit about sort of the cover-up here and the systematic nature of the cover-up because when you look at all of the layers of it, it almost looks like a conspiracy. Here's what Green writes in that piece. Social workers were intimidated into silence.
Local police ignored, excused, and even abetted pedophile rapists across dozens of cities. Senior police and home office officials deliberately avoided action in the name of maintaining what they called community relations, a topic I want to discuss further. Local counselors and members of parliament rejected pleas for help from the parents of raped children.
Charities, NGOs, and labor MPs accused those who discussed the scandal of racism, and there's that word, Julie, Islamophobia. the media mostly ignored or downplayed the biggest story of their lifetimes. Zealous in their incuriosity, most of Britain's media elite remain barnacled to the bubble of Westminster politics and its self-serving priorities. And here's Green's understanding of why.
They did this, he writes, to defend a failed model of multiculturalism and to avoid asking hard questions about failures of immigration policy and assimilation. They did this because they were afraid of being called racist or Islamophobic. They did this because Britain's traditional class snobbery has fused with the new snobbery of political correctness. Julie, is he right there?
What would you add?
One of the more disturbing things that I've read in the past few days is this quote by a former Labour MP for, I hope I'm pronouncing this right, Roushdale?
Rochdale, excuse me. Simon Danshuck, okay? One of these cities that were victimized by these gangs. He says that he was warned by top leaders in his party not to highlight who the perpetrators were. This is a direct quote. What surprised me more than anything is that I had senior politicians tell me not to mention the ethnicity or religious bias of these perpetrators.
They said it would affect the labor vote. It was quite clear. They were quite clear about that. How did the identity of the perpetrators here create a kind of omerta or code of silence around politicians' ability to talk about it, especially on the left, Ayaan?
There were people that did try and blow the whistle. I know there's one female detective, Maggie Oliver. Why don't you tell me about her, Julie?
For those people who have followed this scandal, most people, I think, considered it largely to be something in the rearview mirror, right? At least until last week, right?
And the person that has sort of brought it front and center as an international conversation, conversation in the English-speaking world, not just in the U.K., is because of Elon Musk, who started tweeting, as he does, obsessively about it. And he hasn't stopped.
And some people could argue that his tweeting has arguably done more for this issue, given his power and the power of X, than anything else. And I guess just to start, I wanted to ask, you know, as people who have been doggedly reporting and following this issue for so long, as people who have been screaming about this story and trying to get people to pay attention, does that anger you?
Julie, from a feminist perspective, does it annoy you that a lot of women have been saying a lot about this topic for more than two decades and only now it seems like the world is paying attention?
One thing that Elon has been tweeting about a lot is that the UK, he says, has a two-tiered justice system that essentially favors minorities. Just to choose one of many examples, the UK is a place where people have been arrested in recent months for racist tweets.
And yet, many of the abusers in the kinds of stories that we talked about earlier in this conversation are walking free, having served little or no jail time. Is he right? Is the UK a place where justice is still blind, or is there a two-tier justice system?
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